race / classes

[hanstin]

how do the races look like? from what i understand there are 3 races. are there gonna be more added later on? or sub-species? racial threats?
How about classes i havent read a thing about it. is there gonna be classes? hero classes? etc.

[Damon]

how do the races look like? from what i understand there are 3 races. are there gonna be more added later on? or sub-species? racial threats?
How about classes i havent read a thing about it. is there gonna be classes? hero classes? etc.


There are no classes. We use a skill based system of advancement. We will be tweaking soon how many skills you may have at 100%. We are also looking into a Hero Class type skills for people who specialize.

[hanstin]

ok thx ;)
ill roll al'gar for sure

[disgruntaledshaman]

This idea makes me absolutely as giddy as a school girl ;D ;D

One of the biggest things that WoW lacks is diversity. My troll shaman is basically just like every other troll shaman. Even if I grind for months for the pvp epics, he looks the same, performs the same function, same spells, same tired everything. Even then, if I want a good weapon, I have to respec to healbot and raid MC for months on end (Thrall wasn't a healbot. Why do I have to be?....anyway). Even then, there are only so many possibilities without completely gimping yourself for what I find to be the most rewarding part of the game (pvp).
But this is an idea I've wanted to see implemented into a game for a long time. And the morphing system to reflect the stats in the toons appearance is wonderful! You guys have a lot of great ideas , and I'm very excited to see how this turns out.

[Damon]

This idea makes me absolutely as giddy as a school girl ;D ;D

One of the biggest things that WoW lacks is diversity. My troll shaman is basically just like every other troll shaman. Even if I grind for months for the pvp epics, he looks the same, performs the same function, same spells, same tired everything. Even then, if I want a good weapon, I have to respec to healbot and raid MC for months on end (Thrall wasn't a healbot. Why do I have to be?....anyway). Even then, there are only so many possibilities without completely gimping yourself for what I find to be the most rewarding part of the game (pvp).
But this is an idea I've wanted to see implemented into a game for a long time. And the morphing system to reflect the stats in the toons appearance is wonderful! You guys have a lot of great ideas , and I'm very excited to see how this turns out.


We hear you Dis. The key is these ideas are such a breath of fresh air to the stale old systems of rinse repeat quests, and surface customizability with no real meaning.
Oh and we have so much more in store. Kaos War truly hopes to be the "MMO that changes everything".

[hanstin]

Kaos War truly hopes to be the "MMO that changes everything".



so do i

[neuvena]

The way you seem to be leading on with the Kaos War skill system sounds a lot like the original Star Wars Galaxies pre-CU skill system. The system was a lot of fun having skill points which you were allowed to spend however you wanted throughout 30+ "profession" trees. At the time it was what really made the game unique. With this system your avatar was able to be as diverse as you wanted. Many people enjoyed it and left the game after SWG switched to having "classes" like WoW. The only downfall with the original system was that with so many professions they weren't balanced well. People were able to create defence stacked templates which made them almost unbeatable in PvP. To counter this SOE put caps on offencive and defencive skills which helped a bit. Another problem was that if you wanted your character to have some of their skill points spent in combat professions and some spent in a crafting or entertainer professions you had no chance in PvP against someone who has all their skill points spent in combat professions.

Another great thing about this system was that you were able to drop skills at anytime to learn new skills. I wouldn't really say it was respecing because it wasn't instant. You had to earn xp in order to learn new skills but once you made an avatar you weren't stuck in a single "class." If the system you guys are creating is something similar to this I know I would be happy and I'm sure a lot of other people would enjoy this too. But one thing you would need to do is keep combat skills and crafting/harvest/entertainer skills seperate.

[jiisu]

When I recently got a look at our Skill System, still a work in progress mind you, I vomited all over myself. It's that indepth and that expansive to the point where everyone will be different. Everyone...

[Vladimir]

this is good to hear! in every MMO i have ever played i always make a character and get him to lvl 20 and realize that his class takes it in the bum and i have to restart.

[jiisu]

Well since we dont have a traditional class system, you'll feel right at home with Kaos War. =D

[Damon]

I am astonished at our skill system it is just unreal. Mountain Dew flew out my nose all over my monitor when I saw the near finished product. It is something never seen in a MMO before. Its going to be a real treat for gamers everywhere IMO. We are keeping it secret just abit longer for obvious reasons. But make no mistake, its revolutionary to say the least.

[Mister Matt]

if its possible, you should get a patent on it and show it to us ;D

[hanstin]

I am astonished at our skill system it is just unreal. Mountain Dew flew out my nose all over my monitor when I saw the near finished product. It is something never seen in a MMO before. Its going to be a real treat for gamers everywhere IMO. We are keeping it secret just abit longer for obvious reasons. But make no mistake, its revolutionary to say the least.

NOOO your an very evil man damon very evil we want details were very unpatiend(who isent >.<")?
for this ill make a buny

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[colombdawg]

Hey,

So on browsing MMORPG.com tonight I found that this game had just been added. The genre was sci-fi so I was like "hm..sci fi...ehhh" but after reading the game info, races, city descriptions, how skills will be working, I was like "Holy crap, this sounds good". So here I am and reading this thread and I am totally loving the skill system idea. The only dilemma I see is how levels would work if there are levels. I know levels sort of limit a character in a way as in "I'm level 50 and your level 1 and you suck" or something of the sort, but I mean, restriction of areas for people who have high enough skill to kill something or somethong along those lines. How would that work? Like areas where people with high skills can enter and then areas for lower levels only, how would this be divided and worked? Just wondering, loving the idea though. A handgun raises dex, I lol'd because I was like "what? that is really new, sounds cool though".

[Damon]

Hey,

So on browsing MMORPG.com tonight I found that this game had just been added. The genre was sci-fi so I was like "hm..sci fi...ehhh" but after reading the game info, races, city descriptions, how skills will be working, I was like "Holy crap, this sounds good". So here I am and reading this thread and I am totally loving the skill system idea. The only dilemma I see is how levels would work if there are levels. I know levels sort of limit a character in a way as in "I'm level 50 and your level 1 and you suck" or something of the sort, but I mean, restriction of areas for people who have high enough skill to kill something or somethong along those lines. How would that work? Like areas where people with high skills can enter and then areas for lower levels only, how would this be divided and worked? Just wondering, loving the idea though. A handgun raises dex, I lol'd because I was like "what? that is really new, sounds cool though".


Welcome to the Kaos Legions Colombdawg!
I hear you we are Sci-Fi meets myth if I can explain it to you correctly. We have a clear vision of the world and it was best described "Ancient Future". Imagine a world were you walk in and you feel like you steped into the past but you are surrounded by holographic images, new technologies, guns etc. But with powerful feeling of walking to another world steeped in myth and ancient traditions.

When I saw Kaos and first envisioned it, it became to me a world set apart from others a world of dreams and shadow. Man is a product of his time, what then perhaps would a world be like in where all time lines existed but none? This is the essence of Kaos. Where the soul powers technology and the greatest war to ever exist come to its inevitable final conclusion. Ambitious yes but epic beyond proportions.

There are no levels in Kaos, it is purely based on skills. Your stats have a soft cap and you advance though your daily practiced skills. We are toying with a Power Rating. Your PR is based on a few multipliers such as how many skills you have maxed etc.

[hanstin]

will we have sword axes and maces?if yes will they be as strong as laz0r guns that go pew pew pew ?

[MedicineCow]

I saw the Tech Demo I was like WOW :o Then I came across this thread. I just L :-*VE The Idea on how this Class but No Class system. lol Whatever it's called. I will be keeping a eye on updates.

[jiisu]

Skill System :)

[Land_Warriors]

Like Ultima Online?

[Damon]

Like Ultima Online?
IMO Better

[hanstin]

only time will tell

[Mister Matt]

are you questioning Kaos War's mmo prowess hanstin?

[a chewy rock]

I believe he was. I guess that means we have to kill him or throw him in prison for 50 life sentences.

[Mister Matt]

id like to see him and cady in a cage match...lol

[a chewy rock]

That would be a close match.

[Lorens_Gurl21]

id like to see him and cady in a cage match...lol

LOL. Um...Cady vs. Hanstin. Kind of has a ring to it, and I would totally win!

[neuvena]

I'm putting 20 on Cady

[Lorens_Gurl21]

Haha, you wont' regret it. LOL.

[hanstin]

are you questioning Kaos War's mmo prowess hanstin?

i only said that once kaos war is released then we will see how it works etc and hanstin VS cady WTF ?!?! seriously why do you guys think i have something against cady? she would win i am a real man and they dont hurt women

[Lorens_Gurl21]

i only said that once kaos war is released then we will see how it works etc and hanstin VS cady WTF ?!?! seriously why do you guys think i have something against cady? she would win i am a real man and they dont hurt women

So time to set the record straight:

Hanstin has nothing against me nor do I have something against him. I WOULD WIN. And Hanstin is a real man. (who needs to get a pic) LOL.

[hanstin]

how about you be quiete about a stupid pic ok?

[Lorens_Gurl21]

how about you be quiete about a stupid pic ok?

Fine, geez louise. Don't have a cow.

[hanstin]

what does a cow has to do with this ?
this topic resumes in hanstin and cady thread

[a chewy rock]

A real man would protect himself from danger wouldn't he? Cady sounds like a pretty dangerous person. I mean, I wouldn't want to be around her.

[Cady]

A real man would protect himself from danger wouldn't he? Cady sounds like a pretty dangerous person. I mean, I wouldn't want to be around her.

Oh great. I'm dangerous and you wouldn't want to be around me. That's a great confidence boost. THANKS! =(

[hanstin]

A real man would protect himself from danger wouldn't he? Cady sounds like a pretty dangerous person. I mean, I wouldn't want to be around her.

u just did the stupidest thing a man could ever do

[a chewy rock]

I didn't do anything but post a reply...

[hanstin]

I didn't do anything but post a reply...

what you said in the reply >.<":

[a chewy rock]

Oh........

[Cady]

DUH! :rolleyes:

[Knight Templar]

Yo Damon, just a question. Being that you are incorporating an angle like class into your game, have you given any thought to flight?, not to be an ass or anything but if a human being could fly with wings there are peramaters to make it realistic, if you even plan on going that far. But if u had a human frame that weighed a hundred and fifty pounds, you would need wings the size of a boeing 737 to get off the ground. If a humans bones were hollow that would help with the wieght issue, but like i said if that kind of realism isnt a factor dont even worry about it. I guess what i am asking is PLEASE dont use the cleshay dude with wings that somehow flys like a humming bird. keep up the good work. Peace love dope

[hanstin]

Yo Damon, just a question. Being that you are incorporating an angle like class into your game, have you given any thought to flight?, not to be an ass or anything but if a human being could fly with wings there are peramaters to make it realistic, if you even plan on going that far. But if u had a human frame that weighed a hundred and fifty pounds, you would need wings the size of a boeing 737 to get off the ground. If a humans bones were hollow that would help with the wieght issue, but like i said if that kind of realism isnt a factor dont even worry about it. I guess what i am asking is PLEASE dont use the cleshay dude with wings that somehow flys like a humming bird. keep up the good work. Peace love dope

see the guy on your top screen left THATs the angel human being thingy thangy

[a chewy rock]

Hanstin, I believe that would be a Deva concept. A pretty good one too, I must say.

[Cady]

What the hell is a "thangy"?

[a chewy rock]

I'm pretty sure it oculd be just about anything we want it to be.

[Cady]

I'm pretty sure it oculd be just about anything we want it to be.

In that case, a "thangy" will now be defined as anything fuzzy and pink. ;D

[a chewy rock]

I think that would be defined as stupid rather than a "thangy."

[Cady]

I think that would be defined as stupid rather than a "thangy."

LOL. I think it would be defined as preppy.

Definition of a "thangy" - ?

[Knight Templar]

yeah i know what the deva are, its just the human with wings thing that i get tired of, not that it doesnt look kick ass, but its been done

[Soliptic]

what does a cow has to do with this ?


A better question is, what doesn't a cow have to do with this?

(Jisu, they're on to us! Run for it!)

[a chewy rock]

Cows have everythig to do with everything.

[Cady]

Moo Kows RoQ!!! =)

[Zaiwob]

Cows are like holy creatures in India, in sweden they are just creatures we get milk from. Indians (people from India) would like live in the farms here if they knew :p
From where i live its like 10 kilometers to closest cow. So i dont think they are that cool..

[hanstin]

This thread is supposed to be about races and classes not about freaking cows get back on topic please

[Zaiwob]

Sorry, btw.. will there be a class which you use shields in? i mean dual wield shield, and attack with the shield, like weak attack and a mega defence :p

I'd like to play such a character in any game. Maybe would rock..

[hanstin]

As damon stated before there will be no classes you have to use ur skill points to train in certain stuff

[Zaiwob]

Yeah i understand that, but i guess it will be possible to wear two daggers. but in all games i've ever played there is no way to wear two shields. Just think it would be fun trying it if he makes it possible.

[a chewy rock]

I've always wanted to wield two shields, too. It seems so pointless and that's probably why I want to do it. It would be coolt o go into battle with a big tower shield on both arms and just bash people. I guess that's what clubs and maces are for but the idea of two shields makes you think only defense. But... when you use them for offense it owuld be cool. They would need some kind of spikes protruding from them though.

[Zaiwob]

Ah, someone that understands me :p. Yeah spikes would be cool, btw i have only played one game ever where you can attack with the shield and that was only a skill. Its Ragnarok, the skill is for warriors i think, its Shield boomerang. its quite good but its not exactly what i want.

Get like twice the block chance and double defence amount, but the attack dmg is very low so without skills you gotta be in a party to level. that would be a perfect tank, just stand in the front and eat iron from enemies weapons :p

[Jsnukka]

hey I've been away from the forums for awhile. Was wondering since the last post in this section was almost 2 months ago, if there is any updated information the developers can give us.

[hanstin]

all will come in time have patience my young padawan ..... patience

[Spartan]

Can a list of beta classes be listed?

Paladin, for most is a knight with holy powers, but in reality it is a knight with extra responsibilities besides leading cavalry. FYI.

[sinsa]

Can a list of beta classes be listed?

Paladin, for most is a knight with holy powers, but in reality it is a knight with extra responsibilities besides leading cavalry. FYI.


I think that what you meant to ask for was: "Can a list of skills be listed?" as it has been stated time and again that there are NO CLASSES!

And yea Dual wielding shields would be fun. Especially if you could modify them with blades on the edges and spikes on the centers and what not. Toss in a few hooks here and there for ripping. Yea the more I think about it the messier my thoughts get. You'ld be one feared and bloody bastrd.

[hanstin]

Welcome to kaos war?

[a chewy rock]

Welcome to the Kaos Legions sinsa!

[Varacolaci]

I am astonished at our skill system it is just unreal. Mountain Dew flew out my nose all over my monitor when I saw the near finished product. It is something never seen in a MMO before. Its going to be a real treat for gamers everywhere IMO. We are keeping it secret just abit longer for obvious reasons. But make no mistake, its revolutionary to say the least.

You are my Heros I have always dreamed about a world without clases but skilled persons behind.

Great!!!
Now... what races are you including? (i always play as human so... hehe it's just a routine question)

[hanstin]

You are my Heros I have always dreamed about a world without clases but skilled persons behind.

Great!!!
Now... what races are you including? (i always play as human so... hehe it's just a routine question)

Please comeback on the forums once you read the website

[Mister Matt]

what was it that damon was talking about

[Varacolaci]

Please comeback on the forums once you read the website

I double checked the site (again) and I wasn't able to find any race info in there. Can you pls tell me where is it?

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6687/where5sy.th.jpg (http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=where5sy.jpg)

I'm not trying to be a smartass I really wanna know where that info is I can't find it.

or just the faction info?

4. Factions

http://www.kaoswar.com/forums/../images/collapse_icon.gif (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:switchFaqDisplay%2841%29;) 4.1 How many factions are there?
There are three factions within Kaos War: the Deva, the Algar, and Humanity. The Deva are ancient angelic beings charged with upholding the celestial order and sworn to destroy their mortal enemies, the Algar. The Algar want to awaken their ancient and powerful deities. Born of evil and chaos, they are driven to consume the world in blood and fire. Humanity is now caught in the middle and must fight against both to survive.


NOTE:I'm not english languajed and so I have problems sometimes to understand what it's written and I think you don't need to be rude.

[a chewy rock]

I guess you can think of the Factions as Races. You can be either a Deva, Al'gar, or Human. Deva being the angel-like beings, Al'gar being the demon-like beings, and humans are, of course, humans.

[Varacolaci]

I guess you can think of the Factions as Races. You can be either a Deva, Al'gar, or Human. Deva being the angel-like beings, Al'gar being the demon-like beings, and humans are, of course, humans.



I though so but may under the Deva were some kind of angelic race.. or so that is where my question came.

[a chewy rock]

The Deva are an angelic race.

[darkaao]

Well since we dont have a traditional class system, you'll feel right at home with Kaos War. =D

Sweet, i like that alot :o

[Rhiannon]

I am really wondering if....What you do in the game actually effects your race. ...Would be sweet if it did...Kind of like your "allignment" that past games have had but stepping it up to the next level.

[xhellmagic]

the race is kinda like rappelz,if u all played it before...they have 3 races
deva-angelic race
gaia-human race
asura-demonic race
its an online game which is released late last yr